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« Reply #15 on: April 08, 2004, 04:06:30 pm »
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Clara Altman from Wash U 632 does it again as well--congrats--2 All-Americans in one year is damn impressive!


Real nice person too!
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« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2004, 04:08:21 pm »
Hoorah! Mac moves up. :D
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« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2004, 04:10:53 pm »
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Hoorah! Mac moves up. :D


And Weber St. moved down *sobs* *begins furious work on the board proposal* must fix this....
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« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2004, 04:16:47 pm »
Ooooooooh, did the Tommies earn us a silver bid?!?!
We can only hope. :D
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« Reply #19 on: April 08, 2004, 04:18:02 pm »
I'm sure they did. I have fundamental problems with the current system. I'll have my proposal up by Monday.
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« Reply #20 on: April 08, 2004, 04:19:39 pm »
It looks like the Tommies did earn us a silver bid... CSB|SJU MUST get back to DM next year and get ourselves one as well...
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« Reply #21 on: April 08, 2004, 04:22:46 pm »
Bah.  I was maybe 5 minutes away from finishing 1-36 with reasonable accuracy when I accidentally closed excel without saving :mad: But to answer your question RadLib, the Tommies most definitely earned an auto-silver.  If I remember correctly, CSB-SJU missed a silver bid by .5 points with 29.

To Jimmy, what are your porblems with the current system?
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« Reply #22 on: April 08, 2004, 04:22:52 pm »
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It looks like the Tommies did earn us a silver bid... CSB|SJU MUST get back to DM next year and get ourselves one as well...


Yes yes, more bids.  No more mishaps like this year.
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« Reply #23 on: April 08, 2004, 04:24:00 pm »
DAMN DAMN DAMN!!! SO CLOSE!!
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« Reply #24 on: April 08, 2004, 05:17:26 pm »
Yes, what are your problems with the current system?  It seems like an excellent way to reward programs that have historically done well at past nationals--yet at the same time, it heavily weights a program's most recent performance to allow for programs to move around in the rankings based on how they do year to year.  I personally think it should be used for seeding in the first round, with future rounds decided by the current bracket system.

Or is your beef just that AZ doesn't appear anywhere in the top 16?  :D  :D  :D
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« Reply #25 on: April 08, 2004, 05:23:01 pm »
And further, if your complaint has to do with so called "unfair disparities" in how regionals work, the system is designed to address that.  For example, Berkeley will now have an extra gold bid at their regional based on how extraordinarily well they did last year.  As to your suggestion that it rewards top-heavy rather than deep regionals, I don't quite see how that is an aberration.

As I understand it, the reason top programs bring bids to their region is that it's assumed that they will get one, so the rest of the programs in there who are assumed to have some degree of parity can fight amongst themselves for the last two rather than simply competing for the one that the "established" program takes up.  At regionals where there is no program that is "established," the same parity principle exists.  

But I really am curious to see your beef with the system--just to see where you're coming from.
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« Reply #26 on: April 08, 2004, 05:27:55 pm »
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Or is your beef just that AZ doesn't appear anywhere in the top 16?  :D  :D  :D



Top 16? AZ (Arizona) is currently ranked 93rd.  I imagine that will go up a little right? Based on the fact that they made it to Florida this year? No clue how that works.
I am hoping that my team (MCC 968) will rise up into the 30's after this year...but who knows.

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« Reply #27 on: April 08, 2004, 05:29:50 pm »
Jaggers, PM me your email, and I'll send you what I have.  It seems like our numbers are a bit off, so maybe you can overlook mine.  

Yeah, Arizona A is number 62 on the list.  It's pretty tough for new programs to earn bids.  A team like Virginia will need to win 6 ballots next year to be in consideration for an extra silver bid.  With Howard A losing their gold bid, College Park will be even more of a dogfight next year.  Howard, GW, Maryland, Virginia, Georgetown fighting for 4 spots?!  OUCH!
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« Reply #28 on: April 08, 2004, 05:33:05 pm »
But I think that makes sense, to some degree.  If a new program performs well consistently, then they should be rewarded.  I don't think the rankings should change every year based on invitational or regional performance because that could get very disorganized--instead, I think rankings at nationals should be based on performance at nationals, to reward programs that have consistently been putting out top teams.

But that's just me, and I understand that someone from a new program may have a very different perspective from mine.
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« Reply #29 on: April 08, 2004, 05:35:34 pm »
Well, we're a fairly new program, and we almost have a Silver bid. It can be done, and it seems like a fair system. I am very interested in seeing Jimmy's proposal, though.
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