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AlexOnFyre

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Question about revealing tabs.
« on: February 13, 2008, 04:50:00 pm »
As a coach is it more prudent to hide the tabs of each round from your team until the end of the tourney, or to let them know how they are doing? Why?

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Re: Question about revealing tabs.
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2008, 05:01:40 pm »
My response is that it depends on the composition of your team. Some people will respond well, for example, if their team is 4-2 going into the last round and will advance by taking both ballots. Others might get nervous and not perform to their potential.
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Re: Question about revealing tabs.
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2008, 05:11:19 pm »
I personally hate not knowing the scores. I stress over trying to decide if we won or lost close matches or if we lost to judges against a poor team.
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Re: Question about revealing tabs.
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2008, 05:57:50 pm »
As a coach I've gone about this both ways....I tend to agree with FundamentalPrecepts in that it depends a lot on the make up of your team.  I've changed my policy from year to year at Regionals depending on how I've seen the team react at Invites throughout the year.  While some people will respond well to knowing they did well, others will become depressed at losing a round they thought they won and not perform as well.  In some cases the opposite can be true.

Personally I like not telling them because it keeps them working hard all weekend no matter what.  When you think about it knowing the scores can't change the outcome so what does it matter if they know right away or wait till the end of the weekend.  Theoretically it shouldn't matter what the record is the team should go into the round just as hard in Round 4 as Round 1 whether they are 6-0 or 0-6.

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Re: Question about revealing tabs.
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2008, 06:10:00 pm »
I can never resist looking! I feel that the team should know what we are facing and who, and how we did... heck sometimes I will even tell them how many ballots the other team got  :gavel: :gavel:
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Re: Question about revealing tabs.
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2008, 09:15:20 pm »
Last year, my coach told us after every round, and this year, she hasn't told us at all.  Personally, I find that not knowing is ultimately better!  For example, knowing you're 6-0 going into the last round against the only other 6-0 team is nerve-wracking.  It can also be very upsetting to hear that you lost ballots you felt that you won, which can (and has) affected performances in the other rounds.  Plus, I can tell you that if you are doing well, it makes for one amazing award ceremony when you don't know. :)

Although I spend a majority of "down" time between rounds guessing as to how we're doing, I still find it in the best interest of my team at least to not know!  As my coach says, every round should be treated as a championship round!

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Re: Question about revealing tabs.
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2008, 09:41:37 pm »
I am going to have to agree with starrydecisus, and that has nothing to do with the fact that we have the same coach.  I just think it does more harm then good to know.  The only catch is I would really like to know if I was 0-6 going into the last round.  But other then that, I get psyched for every round because I have no idea if we are facing a 0-win team, a .500 team or an undefeated team.
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Re: Question about revealing tabs.
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2008, 09:57:29 pm »
I am going to have to agree with starrydecisus, and that has nothing to do with the fact that we have the same coach.  I just think it does more harm then good to know.  The only catch is I would really like to know if I was 0-6 going into the last round.  But other then that, I get psyched for every round because I have no idea if we are facing a 0-win team, a .500 team or an undefeated team.

We at Upstate are at the cutting edge of Mocktrial Techniques... Lets just say we have a special battle plan for a round if we are 0-6... Fortunately we have not gotten to use it yet... but it would be the greatest Mocktrial experience of your lives  ;-)
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Re: Question about revealing tabs.
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2008, 10:01:33 pm »
We at Upstate are at the cutting edge of Mocktrial Techniques... Lets just say we have a special battle plan for a round if we are 0-6... Fortunately we have not gotten to use it yet... but it would be the greatest Mocktrial experience of your lives  ;-)

If we are 0-6 with you guys going into the last round at Golds, Morris would be honored to share the experience. At the risk of giving too much away ahead of time, we're talking about a very special Dr. Lynn Montana whose explanation of in vitro fertilization will leave you questioning the nature of free will and what it means to be human.
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Re: Question about revealing tabs.
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2008, 10:10:08 pm »
It's good to know that we're not the only ones with an 0-6 plan.   :)

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Re: Question about revealing tabs.
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2008, 10:12:06 pm »
If we are 0-6 with you guys going into the last round at Golds, Morris would be honored to share the experience. At the risk of giving too much away ahead of time, we're talking about a very special Dr. Lynn Montana whose explanation of in vitro fertilization will leave you questioning the nature of free will and what it means to be human.

We will match your Montanna with a Campbell that foams at the mouth and doesn't understand words with more than two syllables... He is often found randomly screaming for no reason ;)
Oh and don't forget that Dr. Rubenstien who uses his handy pet rock to compare Bobbi Campbell with
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Re: Question about revealing tabs.
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2008, 11:28:07 pm »
I'm glad to hear that my squad has a 0-6 plan.  I hope that they won't need it!  Will they, aowwv5?

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Re: Question about revealing tabs.
« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2008, 11:29:05 pm »
As a competitor, I would much rather know. Even if we have no chance at placing, I would rather know where we stand to know what we're facing. As far as 0-6, I have my ideas and will never use them, as I value my life more than the look on my coach's face if I ever said some of the things I would find highly amusing. . . .

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Re: Question about revealing tabs.
« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2008, 11:41:49 pm »
Let's be real... everyone has an 0-6 plan.

Some are more shocking and appalling than others, sure... but we all have them up our sleeves.  The kind that make coaches want to cry and scream "Lord! WHY ME?!" :)

Nur, I'm exquisitely curious to know what that Montana explanation is... do tell us after your national round!

The problem with 0-6 plans, is they are so fun... so tempting.... you almost want to do it... look for it in two weeks!  ;-)
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Re: Question about revealing tabs.
« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2008, 11:51:29 pm »
Is it nerdy that I wanted to respond to this thread with:
"Objection, Relevance"
but seriously, we transferred our 0-6 plan to Bye Buster plan, so it isn't so tempting.