Jamaica Regional Poll

[Mockinfordummies]

You may select up to 8 options

[In A Trance]

My Predictions:
 1) NYU A- 8 wins
 2) Pennsylvania A- 7 wins
 3) Columbia A- 7 wins
 4) Seton Hall A- 6 wins
 5) Pennsylvania B- 5.5 wins
 6) NYU B- 5 wins
 7) Columbia B- 5 wins
 8) St. John's A- 5 wins

This is going to be a tough regional

[08Dmv09]

New Haven was a good time. Unfortunately, due to the snowstorm that hit the mid-Atlantic, i won't be able to attend any of the regional competitions in the north east this weekend. Jamaica will be next on my list of fill-in judging & cheerleading.

1. NYU A 7 wins
2. Penn A 7 wins
3. Columbia A 6 wins
4. NYU B 5.5 wins
5. Penn B 5 wins
6. Columbia B 5 wins
7. St. John's A 5 wins
8. Fordham Rose Hill "C" 5 wins

I'm not sold on Fordham Lincoln Center nor am I sold on Lafayette A. From what I can gather from tab summaries neither team is as experienced as the top 8. St. John's poor showing at Fordham is concerning, but i'll mark that down as a bump in the road for a solid program. Along the same lines, Seton Hall's Fordham performance, though impressive, isn't enough to push them into the top 8...certainly not fourth. If Seton Hall stacks as they did at Fordham, I then might agree with you In A Trance, but the AMTA website has the Hall down for two teams at Jamaica (not just the one they sent to Fordham). I heard through the Fordham grapevine that their Baxamusa is fantastic and that their opener and closer are lights out.  Again, to the sensitive crowd, no hard feelings. All of the programs are talented. Lafayette was impressive at Big Red. I'm just not sippin' the Seton Hall and Lafayette Kool-Aid.

[Mockinfordummies]

Along the same lines, Seton Hall's Fordham performance, though impressive, isn't enough to push them into the top 8...certainly not fourth. If Seton Hall stacks as they did at Fordham, I then might agree with you In A Trance, but the AMTA website has the Hall down for two teams at Jamaica (not just the one they sent to Fordham).

Now this is all hearsay, so don't quote me on this- but I heard from some people that Seton Hall's A team actually canceled out last minute from Fordham, so the team they sent to Fordham was their B team.  However, from what I've heard, their two teams are both very good, without any stacking going on at all

[08Dmv09]

I was under the impression that they sent one squad merged with members from both teams after they canceled. Possible no? I also heard their A team canceled. I do hear great things, not knocking the Hall. This regional competition is far far tougher than Fordham.

[skon]

I heard through the Fordham grapevine that their Baxamusa is fantastic and that their opener and closer are lights out. 

Where has Fordham Rose Hill C competed this year?

[DyingDeclaration]

I think NYU A and B will clean up, especially with Patrick Diamond and Cindy Jordano working some magic on B. Columbia and Penn should do well. And St. John's always gets out of their own regional.

[KipBMT]

I think NYU A and B will clean up, especially with Patrick Diamond and Cindy Jordano working some magic on B.

Agreed.  IMO Cindy Jordano is one of the most underrated mockers in AMTA, especially after taking attorney awards at the last two Downtown Invitationals and the Hamilton ORCS last spring.

[jaysarj23059]

Wow, this looks like the toughest of all of the regionals, should be a lotta fun.

[08Dmv09]

To answer your question skon, I don't believe Fordham Rose Hill "C" is really Fordham Rose Hill "C".

[Mockinfordummies]

To answer your question skon, I don't believe Fordham Rose Hill "C" is really Fordham Rose Hill "C".

Do you think they are sending their A and B team to this tournament? Becuase that's probably a stupid idea, they had a better chance of making it out in their other regional

[In A Trance]

I was under the impression that they sent one squad merged with members from both teams after they canceled. Possible no? I also heard their A team canceled. I do hear great things, not knocking the Hall. This regional competition is far far tougher than Fordham.

I don't know about this- I mean I just looked at tab summaries and saw that they have had two teams at all their competitions, and both teams have done fairly well, and at least one of their teams placed in all the competitions I can find, which is only three that I can find (the tab summary for Ubuff was never posted, so I have no idea how they did there).  So although it looks like they don't stack, I don't think they combined their teams for that competition.  As i hear it was only their B team at the competition, but my predictions aren't based on that tournament at all.

[08Dmv09]

Mockinfordummies: I found it odd that neither Fordham A or B made it out of their own regional. I immediately jumped to the conclusion that they might have sent one of those teams to Jamaica. Looking deeper into the tabs, Fordham A had a tough day 2 facing Iona and Villanova, so I may be wrong.

In A Trance: I just have a hard time buying the hype. Placing a team fourth who has never placed top 8 at a regional competition is rather dangerous. Unless you know something we don't, I find it hard to justify placing them fourth, even with tab summaries. The only tab summaries I was able to find were from Tufts' Mumbo Jumbo and Fordham and their B team placed in both. If I was Jackie Owens I would place my money on Columbia, NYU, and Penn B before I placed it on Seton Hall A or B. This regional is absolutely stacked, and they simply have not seen competition of this caliber from the tab summaries I could find.

[Mockinfordummies]

If I was Jackie Owens I would place my money on Columbia, NYU, and Penn B before I placed it on Seton Hall A or B. This regional is absolutely stacked, and they simply have not seen competition of this caliber from the tab summaries I could find.

And that's why Jackie Owens is in debt  .  No, just kidding.  I would agree that it's a risky bet, but only time will tell- i've seen weirder things happen.  However, I personally would like to see a team like Seton Hall, which I believe made it to ORCS through the extra bids last year (although they did have 5 wins at yale, one of the hardest regionals in my perspective last year) just blow some of these top programs away.  But, I would say the same for any school, just because I have a thing for the underdog.

[In A Trance]

08Dmv09- Their A team placed at Penn State.  Although they did lose to Columbia B, I believe Columbia was unstacked at that time, and they were the prosecution side.  But they did beat a Penn State team, but I'm not sure whether it was their A B or C.  Anyway truthfully, I am like the guy posting above me, a lover of underdogs.  And having seen/heard about most of these teams in this regional, I just picked the underdog team which I thought had the chance of miraculously making a top 4 finish.  However unlikely it is, my predictions aren't worth any money, so why not take a chance, right?
Oh, and I do know something you don't.  They just picked up a transfer from Russia, who won a national attorney award there.  Although that would be cool, i just made that up.  I wish I did have insider info, then I would make that bet